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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:38 pm

hey guys, stick to topic, do not off thread.

perhaps some kind soul with sound in their ride shall open another thread to discuss there... this forum seems to me like every thread can have the same discussion which it shall not meant to be.

thanks! Thup
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:00 am

Hi guys, my 5008 came in last week.

Yeah I switched from a civic to 5008 because of the space..2 kids, maid, parent plus wife. need the space.

Also, at the price of a pug compared to stream or wish, I rather try a conti.

Am loving it so far. Has all the bells and whistles, including the additional sounds but am alright with it so far...

Also, am learning alot about the car on this forum...pls keep the info sharing going. Thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:32 pm

No idea... Maybe Coe too high and can only afford pug.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:59 am

Tks guys. Will liase directly with Anthony.

I've sprayed some wd40 to the effected areas...worked but dont knw for how long. Now looking for solns for the wind noise.

Tks again guys...
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:36 am

Booked my 5008 in Feb, it was the most logical choice in terms of price, space and power.

I was choosing between VW, Citroen, Peugeot, Honda and Toyota.

1. VW Touran $122K w $26K for my Mz3 trade in. (Most cramped and gear box problem, engine sounded rough when pushed.)

2. Citroen C4GP $125K w $30K trade in. (Didn't like the EGS and the over large wind screen and small moonroof).

3. Honda Stream $152K, trade in didn't bother to ask. (To pay almost $30K more must be crazy)

4. Toyota Wish $158K, trade in didn't bother to ask. (Same as above)

5. Peugeot 5008 $134K w trade in of $29K ( after discount, car was $125K w $1.5K service voucher plus the usual Garrmin GPS and solar film thrown in).

Loved the drive, especially after adding racechip pro.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:05 pm

Previous ride was a mazda 2. Gave us no problem so wife insisted on going for m5 or m8. Price was too expensive thus started looking for a pre owned car wif low mileage. Chance upon an ad on the papers, a 5008 ,registered in 2011, ran 9000km only.

Test drive n fell in love wif it. Condition of car is tip top. Make payment n the rest is history. Did the above shopping n purchase all within a day.

Reason for purchase
- within our budget
- good condition
- we love the simple yet elegant design

Prior to the purchase, discussion wife ruled out the(didn't do any test drive or visit to show room)
- C4. Grand Picasso (jerky gearbox)
- vw tour an (ugly console, car too boxy)
- stream (wife's fren is driving a stream n she d not want to b seen following her footstep)

So far, our ride is ok wif out any complains that I've seen in tis forum and is keeping my finger crossed.
Includin me, my family have four siblings, elder sis driving a 307cc, younger sis driving a 107 n myself a 5008. Only odd one out is my elder bro who is driving a mercs 350. Still waiting for e day where all my family pegs are parked along side each other n take a picture which I post on this forum. Cheers.....
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:54 pm

Welcome to the club.

I have traded in my Mazda 5 for Pug 5008 and will be collecting my new ride later this month. I love the design and curves of the Pug. It bring me to Europe, in my mind, whenever I saw a Pug on our roads. Comparing to a Jap car, which I have been riding for many years, this is a refreshing change. There are many nice features like the moon roof with electronic cover, head's up display, electronic park brake, sun shade. etc. It's real "value for money" when compared to other makes. Sorry this is a Pug forum so what we say, except niceties about our Pugs!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:32 am

French and Italians are very good in their attractive designs but their engineering is not as good as the Japanese. It is like the saying " Nothing is perfect, you gain something, you lose something".

Quite a few forumers here had very high expectation of French cars' engineering and reliability - more of the small finishing touch. I have to say, you have to change your mindset when you want enjoy some nice European comfort and luxury.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:06 pm

Blue850r wrote:
French and Italians are very good in their attractive designs but their engineering is not as good as the Japanese. It is like the saying " Nothing is perfect, you gain something, you lose something".

Quite a few forumers here had very high expectation of French cars' engineering and reliability - more of the small finishing touch. I have to say, you have to change your mindset when you want enjoy some nice European comfort and luxury.


French and Italian cars definitely have more driving "character" than Japanese.. haha.. now ask me go back to driving Japanese car I find it so weird LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:36 pm

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French and Italian cars definitely have more driving "character" than Japanese.. haha.. now ask me go back to driving Japanese car I find it so weird LOL

Yes, totally agree. My first car in 2000 was a pre-owned Hyundai Elantra. In 2002, my French connection started with a Pug 206 and it served with no major issue for 5 great years, 128K km, till I needed more space. In came Pug 307SW in 2007, more space & more muscle. We even drove to Hatyat with it. In 2010, we needed a second vehicle so went for a Nissan March and got rid of it after 6 months. In came a pre-owned Citroen C4 which has been with us till now. We traded in the 307SW recently after 5 years and 148K km for Pug 508SW.

So 3 Pugs and a Citroen in 10 years.

Vive la France!

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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:41 pm

Yodafia wrote:
B772ER wrote:
French and Italian cars definitely have more driving "character" than Japanese.. haha.. now ask me go back to driving Japanese car I find it so weird LOL

Yes, totally agree. My first car in 2000 was a pre-owned Hyundai Elantra. In 2002, my French connection started with a Pug 206 and it served with no major issue for 5 great years, 128K km, till I needed more space. In came Pug 307SW in 2007, more space & more muscle. We even drove to Hatyat with it. In 2010, we needed a second vehicle so went for a Nissan March and got rid of it after 6 months. In came a pre-owned Citroen C4 which has been with us till now. We traded in the 307SW recently after 5 years and 148K km for Pug 508SW.

So 3 Pugs and a Citroen in 10 years.

Viva France!

Been driving MPVs since I got my license 5 years ago (family car lah) and the difference from my previous ride (2006 Nissan Lafesta) and the 5008 is so distinct! Almost 2 years and still loving it~ Have driven other Japanese cars for work (Altis, Maz3, Sunny etc) and they really cannot compare.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:30 pm

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French and Italian cars definitely have more driving "character" than Japanese.. haha.. now ask me go back to driving Japanese car I find it so weird LOL

I will still like to own Japanese car again, some interesting models of course. Eg. Toyota 86.
Their strength is trouble free motoring and no fear of big ticket items. When you have French or Italian cars, you are always think when the dashboard will have funny messages appearing or jerk comes, you will quickly freeze up, thinking is the autogear going soon?
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:00 pm

My 3008 is the 7th new car that I've bought but its the 1st continental.
I delayed going continental as the maintenance is higher than Japanese but I agree now that its a fair price to pay for the extra comfort, safety and special feeling.
During this transition of car changing, my engine sizes also went up and down like roller coaster.
I totally agree that one need to have the right mind set to what you're buying.
The bigger engine or luxury range will certainly perform better in most way than the smaller engine in general.
However, my 3008 with only 1.6 litres certainly can match most Japanese car up to 2.4 litres in terms of torque especially during pickup. The luxurious interior of Peugeot definitely beat most Japanese except some high end brands.
In my opinion, the Japanese are getting complacent and not innovating enough as compared to the European or even the Korean. They're still stuck with the bigger and less economical engine and 4/5 speed gear box, the recently popularly adopted CVT is another step backward.
I believe we're going to see the European dominating the market in a big way like how the Jap did during the few decades.
For sure, it will be hard for me to go back to Jap. car which is precisely why I took so long to own one because I know its no turning back.
Its hard not to go Continental with smaller engine to enjoy lower road tax, insurance, petrol and at the same time getting better power(torque), safety and exclusivity, especially Peugeot.



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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:33 am

Yes what you mentioned is all very true. Japanese had not been innovating the drivetrain side. My guess is their domestic market and the USA market which forms probably 80% of their sales are not looking for small engines with high torque.

So Japanese went on another path which is more green i.e. Hybrid with CVT. I would say CVT transmission feels funny (due to our mindset). The concept of CVT is very efficient and it is particularly good when coupled with small engine.

I had a Mitsu Colt plus ralliart with CVT. When the throttle is floored, the rpm will rev to max engine power, 6000rpm, which you can see full 154bhp is delivered as the speed gains.

If it is conventional gearbox, the revs will climb to 6000rpm (154bhp) and then next gear comes, the rpm will drop to say 5000rpm ( maybe 125bhp). You see what I am trying to say, the power available will go up and down as the gear change are made. So you don't get full power delivery all the time.

On high powered engines, the CVT cannot hold the torque/power as the belt inside will get roasted Sad

However in our local context, the taxes doesn't really favours Hybrid or any other green cars. Although there is a rebate upfront, but the scrap value is reduced. Hence, the depreciation is still the same. Better to go for the European engine forumla, small engine with high torque. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:55 am

You're right, my previous 2 litres car with CVT is not fun to drive.
When accelerate hard, the high rpm will generate more noise rather than pushing the car forward.
Fuel consumption does improves with CVT.
My wife 600cc car with CVT gives her excellent fuel economy of 19L/km.
I remembered Audi has tried to experience with CVT and they have move away long time ago.
I still believe that higher Torque is more important in our daily city driving.
The next car I hope to have is Hybrid, the power/torque that's being generated is amazing, far exceed petrol driven car and yet consume so much less. The $20,000 tax rebate is another incentive.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:01 pm

With the 20K rebate sounds attractive but I am not sure if the ARF is reduced to get that $20K. If yes, your scrap which is based on 50% ARF will be affected.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:33 am

Yes, rebate is offset from ARF, which means PARF value will drop accordingly
If the car is kept for 10 years, than the offset of rebate against scrap is 50% saving.
However, resale value will drop since 2nd hand dealer based on scrap value to determine car price.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:56 am

Like tat not so interesting because to benefit from the better consumption, annual mileage got to be high to offset higher depreciation.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:47 pm

My reasons for buying my 206cc:

1. Affordable hard-top CC
2. Continental brands are latest trend
3. Stylish design with boots
4. Solid handling (I don't like loose types like Corollas)
5. Good suspension feel
6. Modern in-car features (e.g. Fuel consumption, radio control on steering)
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:13 am

Chamelenia wrote:
My reasons for buying my 206cc:

1. Affordable hard-top CC
2. Continental brands are latest trend
3. Stylish design with boots
4. Solid handling (I don't like loose types like Corollas)
5. Good suspension feel
6. Modern in-car features (e.g. Fuel consumption, radio control on steering)

Welcome to Peugeot family.
Good choice as this is a good looking CC with reasonable price and offcourse the exclusivity. Enjoy your ride.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:45 am

Great lifestyle car at an affordable price Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:39 am

Chamelenia wrote:
My reasons for buying my 206cc:

1. Affordable hard-top CC
2. Continental brands are latest trend
3. Stylish design with boots
4. Solid handling (I don't like loose types like Corollas)
5. Good suspension feel
6. Modern in-car features (e.g. Fuel consumption, radio control on steering)

Plus you no longer to spend on a hairdryer since you can dry your hair open-top . Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Why Peugeot?   Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:04 pm

I'm currently driving 1007S.
It's a small and stylish car. (Just nice for 2 person)
Love and hate the 2 sliding doors especially during rainy days.
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